When nO Fear of Allah ReMaiNS…

aband1.jpgKARACHI: Lives soured by neglect, shunned by relatives, given scant attention by the government, a growing number of mentally challenged women and children have found a safe haven in Edhi Centre for the Mentally Ill Women in North Karachi. Theirs is a tale of shame, remorse, human neglect and abandonment. Bent double, octogenarian Khatoon Begum is a victim of physical violence and the perpetrators are none other than her own family.

Defending her son, she says: “It’s my daughter-in-law who hits me with whatever she can lay her hands on. It can be a rolling pin, a broom or even a pair of tongs. If not that then she will kick me.” The indignity of living a life where she’s an unwanted person in her own son’s house brings tears to her eyes and she cries uncontrollably. “For the last 22 years, since my husband died, I’ve not seen a day’s peace. I’m not even dependent on them for money as I get my husband’s pension all of which I give to them, then why can’t they treat me like a human being? I’m probably the most unfortunate mother. I do try to keep myself busy in prayer, but even that does not bring me solace. Sometimes I just feel like dying. I am sure that will bring me peace.” What should have been the responsibility of the state, is taken over by people like the Edhis. “Our leaders cannot look after the youth, what to talk of the aged,” rues Anwar Kazmi, secretary to Abdul Sattar Edhi and his companion for the last 40 years.

Their North Karachi centre, built over 10 acres, was set up in 1986 with just 50-60 mentally ill women. Over a span of 21 years, the number has swelled to accommodate 1,540 of which 600 are above 40. Around 40 died this year mainly due to old age. “Relatives of only four came after they were informed, to pay their last respects, not to take the bodies. It was left to us to prepare their last rites and bury them,” says Anwar Kazmi,.

In just five months, this year, 370 women were admitted to the Edhi Centre, of whom, he says, 30-40 were young and healthy, both physically and mentally, and thus sent to the Sohrab Goth centre for destitute women.

“For the life of me, I never thought I’d be spending the latter part of my life here,” says Rashida Anees, 57. For Anees, once a teacher at schools like Mama Parsi and Habib Girls, this centre is her salvation where she has been living since 1999. According to her, her two brothers and their wives didn’t want to keep her or her younger sister, 55-year old Shakira, after the death of their parents.

Extended family system which meant three, and in some cases four, generations living together, is fast diminishing in this cosmopolitan town of Karachi. “It’s time to face the bitter reality. Ours is a society at crossroads. In this age of the internet and cable TV, through which we imbibe the western cultural values coupled with increased economic difficulties is taking a toll on the joint family system,” explains Kazmi.

At times, he says, families do take care of the mentally challenged woman for as long as they economically can. “But when it becomes impossible, many let their aged parents adrift.” While they may be kept under lock and key (which the Edhi authorities say is done for their own security) but here they are not beaten up or ignored. Their daily needs, including their health needs, are met; they get three square meals a day, are kept clean, given clothes to wear and are taken care of.

Bilquis Bano, 52, may have three “happily married” sons but she’s been living at the Edhi home now for 21 years, since the North Karachi centre opened.

“I had dishonoured my family because my husband slapped me with a divorce. My brother brought me here in 1986,” she says, adjusting her dupatta on her bald head. The last time the sons took her home was on Eid.

In charge of her room, comprising 60 women suffering from various degrees of mental anguish and of different ages ranging from 35year-old Saba Ashfaq to the vitriolic Mumtaz Begum, 70, Bano helps with the daily chores like taking care of the sick, bathing them, helping them change clothes and wash up; taking them to the toilet and ensuring that everyone takes her medicines.

“The centre is run by public philanthropy. We have no dearth of funds and these women are taken good care of,” says Kazmi. “We have very little paid staff as the healthy ones take care of those who are sick.

“Most of these women are from the lowermiddle class, who have been dumped by their very kith and kin. If you ask me, except for a few who have been admitted to the Pagal ward (ward for the mentally sick), not one of these belong here. They need to go home, to their loved ones,” says Waseem Fatema, a staff nurse, who knows each and everyone of the inmates by name and has their personal history at her fingertips.

Neatly dressed, hair made up with a bit of make-up, Zainab Shafiq, 35, who is watching the women interviewed joins in. “If the Edhis didn’t have this place, where would people like us go?” She cannot thank the couple enough for keeping her. With two brothers and two sisters, she was sent here by her sisters-in-law two years ago. A Master’s in psychology, she says: “I never thought I’d get such a good first-hand experience working with mentally challenged patients, and so many of them!” “These emotionally disturbed people need to live among their loved ones. Staying away from home and their family and living with others like them only aggravates their condition,” is how Dr Naseem Atique, the doctor sees the situation.

According to her most women have been thrown out or have come of their own volition because of quarrels between mother-in-law and daughter-in-law. “With less tolerance, in the power struggle, the strong one stays at home, the weaker one is shoved out to fend for herself.” Ironically, not a single woman spoken to blamed the sons or the brothers for their predicament. It was always their wives who were the evil doers. Most believed the latter had cast an evil spell on their men who were unable to see right from wrong and unable to make sane decisions.

Ninety-eight-year-old Ramazan Bibi is one such mother, who refuses to admit that her three sons have dumped her at the Edhi centre. Squatting on toes, she slides to come closer and be heard. “She has three sons, two of them abroad, and one here, but nobody wants to keep her. After the death of her husband, she worked in different houses as a domestic help and ensured all three of them completed their education,” explains Dr Atique.

“They don’t know I’m here and in any case I’m here for a short while, till my nephew finds me a place,” defends Bibi. She has been here now for a year, and has spoken a number of times to her sons.

3rd May, 2007: Dawn Metropolitan Karachi

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22 thoughts on “When nO Fear of Allah ReMaiNS…

  1. Maulana? Abdul Sattar Edhi is an agent of the West. I have evidence to prove it, but i won’t publish it here till our Govt. publishes the evidence that the US gave it on the grounds of which we allowed them to use our airbases.

    Its sad to see the growing trend, but i guess parents themselves are responsible for bringing up such children who can so easily abandon them. Also, Indian drama serials of “saas and bahoo” are also decaying the mindsets of young daughters-in-law who exercise power over the husband and consequently on the mother-in-law.

    If only the daughters-in-law knew Islam to the depth, they might not have treated these harmless ladies like that. i’m gonna have to marry someone with ample knowledge of islam, cuz i’d kill my wife if she so much as raised her finger towards my mom! and no, don’t say every man says that b4 marriage, i mean what i say! 😉

    Regards,

    H.Q.

  2. #3
    Ha ha! Our only problem is that we blame west for all our problems and weaknesses. Anyone we don’t like is an agent. It is a false sense of being “important”, when they don’t even bother about us. They have enough resources and power to live the world seven times without our presence on this planet, where we cannot live without them for even a fortnight, dependent on them just for everything!
    I would advise you to marry, not someone with ample knowledge of Islam but ample implementation of whatever little little Islam she has. Believe me it works!

  3. @ H.Q. –
    the reasons given by you are not the only reasons there are few others as well. All of them collectively made these things to tip.

    Regarding marriage, its the best to seek a Deeni girl. Not just deeni but sensible, understanding and wise. If you get all these qualities then you would definitely be able to teach her more and more of a Deen.

    And regarding Mother and Wife, like other things, justice is the virtue. Try your best to do justice. Don’t ever take anything for granted from anyone. If nothing make sense to you and you find yourself confused then Istishara would be the next best choice.

    @ Akber –
    Now something about Pakistan. We have,
    Altaf Husain as a Peer, Quaid, Rehbar
    Abdul Sattar Edhi as Maulana
    Peer Pagara as a Spiritual Saint
    Aamir Liquat and Kokab Noorani as our Religious Scholars
    Star Plus is a teacher for woman at home

    So, why to question others? Can’t you figure out the destiny of the nation?

    “If you think you are less important, you are allowing them to make you unimportant.” – Adeel Ansari

    “Don’t take everything for granted. Use brains” – Adeel Ansari

    “Sometimes welfare trusts proved to be more lucrative than politics and showbiz” – Adeel Ansari

    “Keep on laughing and don’t change your perception and you will see the worse.” – Adeel Ansari

    NOTE: Adeel Ansari knows nothing, but I consider him wise. If you don’t consider him wise feel free to replace it with some other name like, Donald, John, Micheal, Filippo, George, Russel, or any – any name – any dang GORA name. Then these will automatically become sensible to you.

  4. Akbar Hussain:
    “Ha ha! Our only problem is that we blame west for all our problems and weaknesses. Anyone we don’t like is an agent. It is a false sense of being “important”, when they don’t even bother about us. They have enough resources and power to live the world seven times without our presence on this planet, where we cannot live without them for even a fortnight, dependent on them just for everything!
    I would advise you to marry, not someone with ample knowledge of Islam but ample implementation of whatever little little Islam she has. Believe me it works!”

    Akbar bhai, i’m glad i made you laugh. I wasn’t blamin’ no one for anythin’, i was just being sarcastic, thats “if” you could read between the lines. I don’t particularly have to “like” everyone that you happen to “like”. Let them live the world, however, the problem is, we’re living it more than them, whereas they’re the ones who ARE worried about how we live;
    “facts are facts and cannot be denied on the basis of your likes and dislikes.” – H.Q.

    by the way, you’re being too pessimistic about your own people and you think too highly of them. Believe me if the Muslims woke up from their deep sleep, “they” won’t have enough resources NOR power to last them another decade.

    “think highly of yourself for the world takes you at your own estimate” – Anonymous

    don’t feel so low, we, the Muslim nation have seen better days, and insha’ALLAH, in the near future, if not our generation, then our next generation will see better days. Don’t lose heart yet.

    I agree we are dependent on them, but its kinda interdependence. For instance, the senior most and best Doctors in the US are Pakistanis, several Pakistanis are extremely privileged employees of Corporate Giants like Microsoft, and I know Pakistanis who work for NASA as well. If all these people were to come back to serve Pakistan instead, we would be far better off than them… The things is we, Pakistanis especially, have almost no infrastructure at all, which is why theres CHAOS in literally every office in Pakistan, every issue is mismanaged, sometimes due to lack of qualifications and skills, at other times due to lack of Resources…. Anyways, its a long argument, will catch up with you later. Gtg now.

    Regards,

    H.Q.

  5. This one’s exclusively for M Akbar Hussain since he’s provoked me, after quite a while.

    (posted this a loong time back elsewhere, got a lot of criticism there… lets see what i get here):

    The truth about the islamic state
    It wasn’t always like this
    Let us look back in time
    History reminds us
    One army, One land
    One central authority
    Crushing the Romans
    Persians put in fear
    The Ummah like a Lion
    No need to shed a tear

    When the village was attacked by the kuffaar
    The Khalifah heard the sister cry and prepared for war
    Attacking the city, Destroying it from existence!
    Lesson number 1, Don’t ever mess with Muslims!

    The Imam of the Ummah is a shield where he protects the Ummah and where the Ummah fights behind him. Where is this shield today to protect the Ummah?? What happened to this shield to honor and dignify the Ummah???
    In 1917 Prime Minister of britain after entering Jerusalem stated “the crusade war has ended”. In the same year the French General “Goro” went to the grave of Salahuddin-Ayyubi, Salahuddin-Ayyubi, the one who 730 years prior had crushed the crusades and liberated Palestine & Syria, he went to his grave in Damascus and kicked it and said “wake up oh Salahuddin we are here” …

    How did they do this to you and me?
    We turn on the TV and all we see
    is a world full of casualties
    a generation in agony
    our Ummah is in misery
    let us go back
    to beginning of the century
    and review our history

    from one side to the other side of the globe
    the system of Islam ruled over the world
    They went to the Muslims
    for the all their solutions
    from mathematics to biology
    to the advancements in technology

    After failing on the battlefield
    they kuffaar got together
    and they decided to yield
    they said we must change
    the way the Muslims think
    and sure enough the Muslim Ummah
    began to sink
    In 1917 John Balfaur,
    promised Palestine to the jews,
    31 years later his promise went through

    Britain and France
    split the Muslim lands
    3 years later
    Islam’s worst traitor
    Mustafa kamaal
    Brought the states fall

    In 1920s Mustafa Kamaal with the help of the british became a hero
    huh!… well this so-called hero cancelled the authority of the most powerful system suitable for human-beings THE KHILAFAH!!!… he abandoned all the rulings of Allah… he did not stop there…. He banned the Azaan in Arabic, he denied Muslim sisters from obeying Allah (SWT) by abandoning the Hijab; All Islamic calendars and holidays were cancelled… yes dear Muslims…He changed the Arabic alphabet to Latin. And by doing so he made sure the next generation will be lost and have no connection to their Islamic roots
    as they won’t be able to read or write the Qur’an in its true essence. This Islamic system sent by the Creator of AALAMEEN went from the application in life to stay in museums for people to go and see in turkey…

    In 1924, our state was demolished
    Hundred years of planning and their plans were accomplished
    Kaafirs broke our bond, Contaminated our knowledge
    Better listen up, cuz’ u won’t learn this in college
    Beginning of the end
    and the divisions began
    Step by step
    they divided our lands
    in 1921 Saudi Arabia & Iran
    next year egypt & In 1932 Iraq
    In 1945, Jordan n Indonesia
    Lebanon & Syria
    Two years later, The division of India
    the Muslims took a stand
    and demanded the ruling of Islam
    so they gave them Pakistan,
    but it was only an illusion a false resolution
    far from a solution
    In 1948 The Jews established their israeli state

    In 1960s Somalia & Nigeria
    Kuwait & algeria
    In 1964, came the PLO
    Yaser Arafaat, The U.S. scarecrow
    a great decline! In 1969
    When the west was training Muslims scholars for hire
    Jews were setting Al-Aqsa mosque a fire!
    Let us recall 1970,
    For those who don’t remember
    That was the year
    That we had black September
    The King of Jordan & Yaser Arafaat
    Began their plot
    Shot after shot
    Muslim blood spilled
    As innocent Muslims were killed
    Communism attacked
    but Muslims fought back

    The sincere Mujahideen of Afghanistan fought and pushed back the Russians
    and then They started to fight among themselves, Khumaini came into power with the promise of ruling and raising the Ummah to a level of dignity, but his promise never went through soon after iran and iraq went to war
    And millions of innocent Muslims died for 10 years Muslims killing Muslims
    Over what!!!??? What else…!!! the agenda of the west!!! …at the end there were no resolution. Today iran is very much open to democracy and reformation and the Muslims in Iraq continue to suffer….

    Another 9 decades gone
    But we still don’t have Islam
    Take a look at the gulf
    And the killings of Saddaam
    Over million Muslims died
    But no one answered their cries
    In the 1990s, the Muslim genocide!
    Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Dagistaan

    Its year 2007,
    And nothing has changed
    Past generation has aged
    Let us write the next page
    It’s time for us to change
    It’s up to you & me
    Either we make history
    or we become history…

    — H.Q.

  6. @ Javeria –
    We got duplication here. Please fix it. Thanks.

    @ H.Q.
    We went far off. Lets stick to post. Yes, I know you have been provoked.

    Just feel like quoting in relation to what H.Q. said.

    “We learn from history that man can never learn anything from history.” – Hegel

  7. Its nothing really bad about Abdul Sattar Edhi. The only thing is he is more of a business man rather than a social worker. Thats it.

    – He is making money out of it for himself, and our society also getting benefit from his business. Like a super store brings benefits to us and in return it makes profit from selling stuff to us.

    – His dwellers; orphans, widows, etc. are like goods or items. He takes good care of them, if they worth it, like other business men.

    – He has competitors as every business men have. So, he needs marketing stuff too.

    – He used to rent out there dwellers to participate in a rally or something in order to make it successful by numbers

    – He receives USD $116 per toffee

    – He almost never handover you the postmortem report

    – He most probably sells the body parts if no one claims the body within a particular span of time

    – Once a aged man went to Edhi Centre, because he was not happy at home for some reasons, in a healthy condition. After 2 weeks his acquaintance received the news of his death

    – To the contrary, there was a case when a mentally retarded aunt of my friend admitted in Edhi Centre and she returned after 1.5 years of treatment. And they found her a bit better than before

    – Yes, he deserve a noble prize for his achievements. He is one of the top business men

    – He doesn’t allow his workers to pray. He is against to dedicate a place for praying in his centres. But thats related to faith and faith practices.

    Hence, calling him Maulana, or Dr. is ridiculous. The title of business tycoon suits him the best. Nonetheless, don’t anything about his being a agent of the west. H.Q. if you can throw some light.

  8. AoA all,

    Its really sad to see you all missed the main point of the story and resorted to criticizing the Edhi Foundation.

    If some one is doing some good work, i dont know why we find it hard to appreciate the work.

    There is no doubt that the Edhi foundation has done a lot of work for the poor and the needy. So stop calling him the agent of the west or a business tycoon until and unless you have the guts to go out and help the poor and dedicate your life for it !

    My point was that why is there now a need to create a shelter for the homeless? It shows the growing trends in our society of not tolerating the old ones. Sons and daughter in laws driving the elderly out of the homes.

    Why do we forget that one day we will be old and weak? No man or woman is safe.. they can be easily abandoned by their children and left either on the streets or at the mercy of the edhi foundation and other such trusts…

    Old men and women are being abandoned.. edhi foundation or not… shelters or not… their OWN homes are becoming their shelters when their sons all settle abroad leaving the old parents alone at home at the mercy of the servants who treat them very badly.

    This entire scenario.. as pointed out by H.Q is because they are not teaching their children the Islamic values…
    It is a MAJOR SIN to disobey parents and to even say “uff” to them. People no longer fear Allah at all.. hence the pathetic conditions of our society…

    On the lighter side… hey hey heyy my Blog is not a shadi daftar that you are specifying your “wifey requirements” here!

  9. H. Q.
    It is time we start addressing the real issue and identifying real problem.
    There is no khilafat in USA, Europe, or China, neither was there one when Great Britain ruled the world. The reason they are ruling the world is that they have technology and power. At one time Muslims ruled the world because they had power and knowledge. Their armies were strengthening and their universities were flourishing. If we do not have knowledge, technology, and power, and the will to grow, even the best form of khilafat would fail at our hands. Islam gives us a code of the best form of government addressing personal issues to issues spanning the whole society, yet in order to substantiate this, we need to develop technology, not the “Lunda style” science and tech but something indigenous and innovative.
    Have you heard of the Rajanpur astronomers? Surely no one would have. Yet they are there. I would like to ask jAveRia to let them known through her blog, for at least they deserve that much appreciation. We have such ambitious people scattered all over our country, deprived, distracted, discouraged…yet ready to substantiate their ideas through creativity, unlike the priviledged intellectuals like us, who love more to be part of the problem rather than being part of the solution.

  10. H. Q.
    It is time we start addressing the real issue and identifying real problem.
    There is no khilafat in USA, Europe, or China, neither was there one when Great Britain ruled the world. The reason they are ruling the world is that they have technology and power. At one time Muslims ruled the world because they had power and knowledge. Their armies were strengthening and their universities were flourishing. If we do not have knowledge, technology, and power, and the will to grow, even the best form of khilafat would fail at our hands. Islam gives us a code of the best form of government addressing personal issues to issues spanning the whole society, yet in order to substantiate this, we need to develop technology, not the “Lunda style” science and tech but something indigenous and innovative.
    Have you heard of the Rajanpur astronomers? Surely no one would have. Yet they are there. I would like to ask jAveRia to let them known through her blog, for at least they deserve that much appreciation. We have such ambitious people scattered all over our country, deprived, distracted, discouraged…yet ready to substantiate their ideas through creativity, unlike the privileged intellectuals like us, who love more to be part of the problem rather than being part of the solution.

  11. Why are you guys posting it twice? To increase the weight of your idea? Kiddin ; )

    @ Akber –
    Indeed, you are right in a sense. Hypocrisy is the root, I suppose. Most of us are not the man of their words.

    In fact, developing technology, innovation, education, knowledge, power etc. all are the parts of Islam. What you have to do is to follow it completely, be honest with yourself, your people, and your faith. Do what you say and what you believe.

    @ Javeria –
    Its difficult to believe this kind of notion. But leave it, if you can not take it. Its not that harmful at the moment, I believe. Although, it is linked to different kind of evils but that would not be related to charity stuff, hence, entirely a different story.

    And yes the stories you posted is very sad, if true. By the way, we deserve this, otherwise it would never had happened to us. Indeed, everything carry the hidden widom of Almight Allah, and brings good, in some sense, to you but you know not.

    The other day my Ustaad, Moulana Abdul Aziz came to me in the morning. He ordered me to get ready we need to attend the funeral of Sham Zai (rehmat ullah alaih). I was shocked and felt deep pain inside. Then there were tears in my eyes while I was telling my mom about this incident. It was sad, a real sad for me, at least. But then I asked myself a question. Didn’t we deserve that? Yes, we deserved it.

    One funny quotation I can remember in relation to this.
    “Ek aalim ki maut ek aalam ki maut he. Par ek jaahil ki paidaaish tamaam aalamon ki maut he.” – Muhammad Aslam (My Father)

  12. A scholar always born a scholar. You will find scholarly qualities in his childhood. Just like prophetic qualities in a childhood of a prophet.

    Everything is already written a way before your birth. So, Allah knows who would become a jaahil or a scholar.

    By the way, it is said by my father. Who is an ordinary man. So, if you are not getting it, better don’t take it. In fact, I might not put that exactly, OR that might not be well said. But I found the theme quite right.

    You may find the other similar proverb sensible.

    “10 aalimon ka duniya se chalejana itna nuqsaan-deh naheen, jitna ek jaahil ka power mein aajana” – My father

  13. This notion is against Islam. If it is so, why it is said that one should seek knowledge from mother’s lap till grave? If a scholar is a born scholar and a jaahil when born is destined to be so, why is Quran and Hadith at all needed???
    All people are born equal. It is all a matter of the way they are brought up that makes them different.
    The last quote is truly scholarly, indeed!

  14. Sorry for being out for quite a while now. Guys, i’ve read your arguments, but presently i’m overwhelmed with workload, will respond here shortly insha’ALLAH, agar zindagi rahi to.

    just try to contribute to the cause of islam as much as you can, from what i understand here, our thought frequencies are far apart, so it would take quite an effort to bring us to reach an accord, and frankly, right now i’m in the process of convincing myself for some issues in my life, too much at hand to sort out…. so i beg your pardon atleast for 2nite.

    miltay hain phir break kay baad. I’m off to a non-commercial break!

    Regards,

    H.Q.

  15. Quran and Ahadith are there. Most of Madrassa Students used to study and understand Quran and Ahadith. But tell me, all of them become scholars. All of them become like Emaduddin, Ibn Taymiya, Shibli Noumani, Abdul Wahab, Al Nawawi, Ibn Musa, Imam Shafai, Imam Yousuf, Imam Ahmad, Imam Maalik, Imam Nouman Abu Hanifa etc. No, absolutely not. The knowledge and Quran works for those who already received the Taufeeq from Allah ul Aziz. Abu Jahl knew that the Quran is the truth but what he did. It is because he is destined to Kufr. Allah knows the best how and why He picked few for virtues and few for vices and He is the most just. Everyone, in a computer science university, study the same course, then why not everyone become a Linus Trovaltz, Donald E. Knuth, Ken Thompson, James Gosling, etc. Because not everyone has that kind of brains, not everyone received that kind of opportunity, there are several possible reasons, and a number of reasons belongs to fate.

    For example, Yahya (Alahessalam) was told to become a messenger before his birth. Even the name already told by Allag ul Aziz. He didn’t find his heart in sports and game. This is just one example. You will find numbers of similar examples.

    Scholar has the scholarly attributes from beginning, from early childhood. Knowledge is just to shine his attributes. Hazrat Muhammad (sallallah o alaih e wassallam) was illiterate before prophet hood. But he got the prophetic attributes from the early childhood. He was the opted on from Allah ul Aziz prior to his birth. Few of the philosophers were illiterate but was wise since there childhood. They had scholarly attributes.

    The fortune is itself a deep and complex subject. One need to study it deeply to get a grasp of it.

    For example, take this phrase.
    “Hum kaafiron ke kaafir, kaafir khuda hamara”
    It is not simple as it is looking.

    “All people are born equal. It is all a matter of the way they are brought up that makes them different.”

    Indeed, you are right in your context. But again what one get is the matter of fate. Like, Why one born in a poor family? Why one born in a illiterate family? Why one born in U.S. in a muslim family? Why one born in a Pakistan in a Christian family? Its all the matter of fate and there is, indeed, a hidden wisdom of Allah ul Aziz but we know not.

    “Jo islam ki haalat mein chuney gaye woh Kufr ki haalat mein bhi chuney huey thay”. The best example of this would be Umar Bin Khattab (razi allah o ta’ala anho).

    Allah knows everything from the beginning to the end. He is the beginning and He is the end. He knows what people will come and what people have passed away. He knows what they did and what the people, about to come, would do. He knows how the one would be brought up and what the one would become. He knows everything in advance, all the vices and the virtues of everyone. So, pray to Allah for His grace, mercy and blessings. He is the most beneficent and merciful.

    May Allah forgive me for everything I did wrong and save others from those.

  16. By saying the words like born scholar doesn’t mean that the one has the knowledge since born. Take it as you say, Born Artist, Born leader and etc. This merely means that the one has scholarly attributes, artistry attributes, leadership attributes etc.

    Akber – This notion is against Islam.
    Adeel – No. Absolutely not. On the contrary, it is the fundamental of Islam. It is one of the most important belief.

  17. I am sorry Adeel but your “boasted” knowledge of Islam is incomplete, full of half-truths, and biased.
    If your claims are true based on your own percieved logics, then WHY Allah Subhanahu Wataala said “Laisa lil insaan illa ma sa-aa”
    – Insan ke liay wohi hai jis ke liay wo koshish karay-
    You yourself know better why some students shine while others don’t, some people become scholars or scientists, while others don’t.
    If Islam was destined to dominate the world (which it actually did as promised in the above mentioned ayat) why our beloved Prophet had to take wounds of stoning in Taif, apart from all other sufferings and hardships, to spread the message.
    Again, I would add that this notion is not only against Islam but also a source of many of our problems in this era where we are forced to believe by pseudo-scholars that whatever has to happen, would happen, no matter we try or not. This is a direct denial of Allah’s word for us.
    No doubt Allah knows everything, just like a designer of a 3D game, who has encoded all the rules and results of all the moves, and knows them well. But we have taken this fact as granted to avoid struggle.
    May Allah forgive us all.

  18. Another try. Last one, I hope.

    Akber – Insan ke liay wohi hai jis ke liay wo koshish karay
    Adeel – Koshish karne ki taufeeq Allah ul Aziz ke haath mein he

    Akber -why our beloved Prophet had to take wounds of stoning in Taif, apart from all other sufferings and hardships, to spread the message
    Adeel – A test

    Akber – Again, I would add that this notion is not only against Islam but also a source of many of our problems in this era where we are forced to believe by pseudo-scholars that whatever has to happen, would happen, no matter we try or not. This is a direct denial of Allah’s word for us.
    Adeel – Not forced. We are just trying to steer you in a right direction. You are free to go anywhere. And yes it is like that, whatever, not all, is destined is going to happen, but try your best to become near to Allah ul Aziz. The result is in the hand of Allah. As I said earlier the fate is not as straight as we think. Its a subject requires study.

    Akber – No doubt Allah knows everything, just like a designer of a 3D game, who has encoded all the rules and results of all the moves, and knows them well. But we have taken this fact as granted to avoid struggle.
    Adeel – We must not. “Jo qaum khud apni haalat naheen badalna chahti. Allah us ki haalat naheen badalta.”. Try and try harder, try as hard as possible, resist evil and bring good.

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